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Great newspaper article!

Ungar Raphael — Sat, 21 Jan 2012 18:00:19 +0000

Read this unbelieve and stunning newspaper article printed in “Der Standard”. Unfortunately it is in german but worth reading and I am sorry for all those english speakers. It is about the concept of always being average and describes the Austrian and European moral, the problem, everyone’s average life and a way out of all that despair and boredom.

VOM PUNK ZUM PROFESSOR

“Der Durchschnitt ist das Konzept der Politik”

INTERVIEW | 20. Jänner 2012 18:48

Foto: Der Standard/Hendrich

Zukunft kann kommen: Genetiker Markus Hengstschläger setzt auf evolutionäre Vielfalt, Migration, harte Arbeit.
Foto: Der Standard/Hendrich

“Gießkannenprinzip ist eine evolutive Sackgasse. Die Guten werden schlechter, die Schlechten ein bissl besser. Am Ende sind alle Durchschnitt.”
Foto: Der Standard/Hendrich

“Es gibt offensichtlich nichts Schöneres, als sich in die Phalanx der Gleichen einzureihen. Das ist aber das Todesurteil eines Landes.”

Markus Hengstschläger über Freaks und Peaks, Talente mit vier Fünfern und das eine Prozent, in dem er nicht Durchschnitt ist

Standard: Ihr neues Buch heißt “Die Durchschnittsfalle” . Wer macht uns denn durchschnittlich?

Hengstschläger: Einerseits jene, die die Bequemlichkeit, durchschnittlich zu sein, allem anderen vorziehen. Das ist auch ein Vorwurf an uns alle. Es gibt offensichtlich nichts Schöneres, als sich in die Phalanx der Gleichen einzureihen. Das ist das Todesurteil eines Landes. Fortschritt hängt nur von Peaks und Freaks ab. Der Durchschnitt hat noch nie etwas Besonderes geleistet. Andererseits: Zurzeit ist der Durchschnitt das Konzept der österreichischen Politik.

Standard: Ein Beispiel bitte.

Hengstschläger: 20 Kinder sollen sich im Turnsaal so aufstellen, dass irgendwer den Ball fängt. Der Ball kommt von irgendwo. Wir wissen nicht, woher und wann. Uneingeschränkter Zufall vorausgesetzt – ein klassisches Zukunftsproblem. Die österreichische Politik macht Folgendes: Sie gründet eine Expertengruppe, die gründet eine Subgruppe, die sich nur mit einer Frage beschäftigt: Statistik, Umfragen, Analysen, Durchschnitte erheben. Woher ist der Ball bisher durchschnittlich gekommen? Angenommen, obwohl zufällig: Zehnmal kam er von links unten, zehnmal von rechts oben. Der Durchschnitt ist in der Mitte. Von dort ist der Ball noch nie gekommen, aber die Politik rät den 20 Kindern: Stellt euch bitte alle dort auf, wo der Ball durchschnittlich herkommt. Der Ball kommt, und es muss uns klar sein, die fangen ihn nicht. Die Wahrscheinlichkeit ist ausgesprochen gering. Die einzig richtige Antwort wäre: Damit die Kinder die größte Wahrscheinlichkeit haben, dass irgendwer den Ball fängt, muss sich jedes Kind woanders hinstellen.

Standard: Sie sagen: “Bildungsferne Schichten müssen zur Bildung geführt werden – kompromisslos.”

Hengstschläger: Ja, aber nicht um den Durchschnitt zu heben, sondern weil da viele individuelle Talente drin sind. Ich diskutiere im Buch, was Talent überhaupt ist, was daran eventuell genetisch ist und wie man ein Talent entdecken kann. Die Genetik sagt: Individualität ist unser höchstes Gut. Individualität als das einzige zielführende System, sich auf Fragen der Zukunft vorzubereiten, ist jahrmillionenlang geprüft. Am besten gefällt mir das Beispiel eines deutschen Zoologen, der fragt: Wieso gibt es tausende Schnecken? Weil irgendeine immer überleben wird. Wenn alle gleich wären und die Umwelt ändert sich nur ein bisschen, kann das alle bedrohen. Die Evolution sagt: Wenn ganz viele Verschiedene im System sind, ist immer einer unter uns, der eine Antwort auf Fragen der Zukunft gibt. Das heißt auch: Migration ist Teil der Evolution.

Standard: Wie groß ist denn die “Schuld” unserer Gene daran, ob wir nur durchschnittliche Zeitgenossen sind oder herausragende?

Hengstschläger: Genetisch startet jeder individuell, jeder ist anders, und dann muss man sich in diesem Land von Anfang an gegen Gleichmacherei wehren. Mein Erfolgskonzept: Besondere, individuelle (vielleicht auch genetische) Leistungsvoraussetzungen durch harte Arbeit entdecken und durch harte Arbeit in eine besondere Leistung, also Erfolg, umsetzen.

Standard: Sie verwenden oft “harte Arbeit” , aber auch “Üben, üben, üben” oder “Fleiß” . Welche Rolle spielt “harte Arbeit” im Kampf gegen die Durchschnittlichkeit?

Hengstschläger: Erfolg kommt nur durch harte Arbeit. Aber es gibt auch individuelle Startvoraussetzungen. Wenn wir Elina Garanèa in der Staatsoper singen hören, dann sagt der Österreicher: Wahnsinn, was für ein Talent! Der Irrtum ist nur, das Talent hören wir nicht. Wir hören die besondere Leistung, den Erfolg. Der ist entstanden durch auch biologische Leistungsvoraussetzungen und harte Arbeit. Wenn niemand das Talent von Elina Garanèa entdeckt und ihr die Motivation vermittelt, das durch harte Arbeit umzusetzen, wird nie eine Operndiva draus. Ohne “Üben, üben, üben” geht überhaupt nichts. Aber es gilt auch: Durch “Üben, üben, üben” erreichen nicht alle das Gleiche.

Standard: Welche Schlüsse ziehen Sie daraus für das Schulsystem?

Hengstschläger: Wir orientieren uns am Durchschnitt, statt die Talente zu suchen und zu fördern. Ein Kind ist den ganzen Tag auf dem Fußballplatz, lernt nichts, kommt mit einem Zeugnis nach Hause, sagen wir vereinfacht: vier Nicht genügend, ein Sehr gut. Was sagen in diesem Land die Eltern, die Lehrer, die Bildungspolitiker zu dem Kind? Da, wo du das Sehr gut hast, machst du nichts mehr, da bist du eh schon durch. Und da, wo du die vier Nicht genügend hast, wirst du ab sofort Nachhilfe kriegen und büffeln. Vollkommen irrsinnig. Das Ergebnis ist: Das Kind beschäftigt sich monatelang mit den vier Nicht genügend und wird dort Durchschnitt. Und es vernachlässigt das Fach, in dem es Sehr gut war, und ist dort dann auch Durchschnitt.

Standard: Ist das Abdichten nach unten, wo das Kind schlecht ist, nicht auch wichtig?

Hengstschläger:Klar, es gibt einen Standard, unter dem brauchen wir nicht verhandeln. Die Lösung des Beispiels: Wo das Kind vier Nicht genügend hat, muss es so viel können, dass man sagt: Das ist verwendbar. Viel wichtiger aber ist, dass ein Kind mit vier Nicht genügend und einem Sehr gut als ein Talent bezeichnet wird. Denn warum macht der, wenn er nie was gelernt hat, ein Sehr gut? Diesem Kind muss man sagen: Du hast da besondere Leistungsvoraussetzungen, mit dem Fach solltest du dich ab sofort rund um die Uhr beschäftigen: Das ist dein E=mc2. Das ist dein Humankapital, das wir brauchen in diesem Land, das wird dein individueller Beitrag sein. Jeder leistet einen anderen.

Standard: Ist das ein Plädoyer für oder gegen eine gemeinsame Schule, die auf Individualität abstellt?

Hengstschläger: Mir ist das völlig egal, wie man es nennt. Es geht um das Ziel. Ich will in meinem Hörsaal nicht den Durchschnitt steigern. Ich will seit 20 Jahren Talente finden. Nur der, der den alten Weg verlässt, kann einen neuen gehen. Das will in Österreich aber niemand: Keiner will die Kinder, die als Abweichler gelten, keiner will die in seiner Firma, geschweige denn an der Uni oder in den Schulen, weil jeder sagt: Das ist mühsam. Jeder konzentriert sich darauf, dass der Durchschnitt o. k. ist. Dann scheinen alle zufrieden.

Standard: Sie sind Mitglied des Forschungsrats. Bedeutet Ihre Forderung nach “Peaks und Freaks” , nur noch die Freaks auf den Peaks, also die, die schon Erfolg dokumentiert haben, finanziell fördern?

Hengstschläger: Nicht unbedingt, aber Gießkannenprinzip ist auch eine evolutive Sackgasse. Damit werden die Guten schlechter, weil sie zu wenig haben, und die Schlechten werden vielleicht ein bissl besser, weil sie unbegründet Geld bekommen, das ihnen nicht zusteht – und am Ende sind alle Durchschnitt.

Standard: Was ist denn an Ihnen durchschnittlich?

Hengstschläger: Österreich wertet Talente – ein Riesenirrtum und sinnlos. Ein Talent kann man deswegen nicht werten, weil wir die Frage der Zukunft nicht kennen, also nicht wissen, was wir brauchen. Ich brauche Individualität, das ist das Einzige, was ich weiß. Das heißt: Ich bin wahrscheinlich in 99 Prozent der Dinge unter dem Durchschnitt. Das Ziel muss sein, dass jeder irgendetwas gut kann und nicht vieles mittelmäßig – und bereit ist, daran hart zu arbeiten. Niemand ist also wirklich Durchschnitt – es gibt so viele Eliten wie Individuen – und ich arbeite hart. (Lisa Nimmervoll, DER STANDARD; Printausgabe, 21./22.1.2012)

MARKUS HENGSTSCHLÄGER war mit 16 Punk, mit 24 Doktor der Genetik, mit 35 Professor für Medizinische Genetik an der Medizin-Uni Wien, mit 40 Vorstand des Instituts für Medizinische Genetik und mit 42 Mitglied des Forschungsrates und wissenschaftlicher Leiter des Thinktanks Academia Superior. “Die Durchschnittsfalle. Gene – Talente – Chancen” (Ecowin Verlag), 188 Seiten, 21,90 Euro

http://derstandard.at/1326503352164/Vom-Punk-zum-Professor-Der-Durchschnitt-ist-das-Konzept-der-Politik

Boston Trips

Ungar Raphael — Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:43:30 +0000

Hey folks!

So far I had a really good season. We are 12 games and one big tournament into the season. In school everything is going well and I have very little free time. I was also in Boston this summer for a camp, which also taught me that hockey there is different. It was a good experience even though I hoped to get a higher outcome. Everybody was put on a team, ours won every single game and I only got scored on once in all of the 2 and a half games. I am working really hard and I see myself take steps ahead, which is really good and pushes the moral, my positive attitude and the willingness to work even harder, day in, day out. I always try to be better then the previous day and improve. I played impeccable games in Boston an was really happy with the end results. Game one: 1-0 victory and I played the best game of my entire life, we scored the game winner 11 seconds before the horn went off. Game two: 4-1 loss due to an injury I suffered from where I had to take pain killers before the game I did not play outstanding but still a really good effort and I made some pretty nice saves. Game 3: 3-0 loss against New Jersey Devils. I was really excited to get to play my favorite NHL team and I was extremely nervous before the game because of all the scouts. I called my goalie coach and he calmed me down. I was kind of upset from the first two goals but other than that I played outstanding again. I am also doing really well in the regular season, even though I would like to play more, but that is probably everybody’s wish so I cannot change that, but I can control how hard I work. I also have the desire to go to North America and play there hockey. Since I played in the tournament and I am back my heart is burning, it want the faster game back and the hard work ethic every single player has there. The competition, the emotions, the willingness to do anything, the quicker and harder shots, all that and more. In school everything is running and I like it. It may sound confusing for some, but I honestly enjoy going to school and I try do the best I can and the best I can be, in both, hockey and school. That are the two only things I am worried about right now and the only things that matter, I don’t need any more. I really got inspired by this one school. That is the one I prefer to go the most right now, because it is both, a athletic and an educational challenge.

Hope to see you soon

Raphi

2nd school year…

Ungar Raphael — Thu, 14 Jul 2011 10:57:55 +0000

Hey guys!

I did not write for a longer time and wanted to say sorry to all of you. But I will sum up everything that happened for you. So now I am sitting here at home and looking back at the 2nd year of OHS Europe. I want to thank all the people that supported me so far, my family, my friends, my coaches, my teammates and especially the DREAM ACADEMIA, without whom I would not be where I am. It was a great school year with, of course, also it downs. On the day before the last school day we had a team dinner, where awards were given out for MVP, best student and most improved player. I got the MVP and best student award, even though and that is the funny thing, I did not study a whole lot in my room or at home. You may wonder how is that possible? Well, if you pay attention in class and ask questions if you do not understand, then you cannot even study at home, because you do not know what to study. I think it is important to learn that lesson early, because it is a lesson for life, and makes it a whole lot easier.

We also had a little meeting with our goalie coach, which I really respect and I pay a tribute to, because he cares about every single one of us. He talked to me and said he was not really satisfied at the beginning with me because he knew I could work harder and play better even though I thought I did. But he said it happens sometimes, that you think for yourself you are but outstanding persons see it different and he talked a lot about it with Jason and they meant it was more in my head, it troubled me that I did not go to Boston and that I was on the weaker team. But he also told me that I improved and it became better as the season went on. He puts a lot of trust and hope in me and always tries to push me and does not only say how good I am and blabla and that is what I really like about him and I want to thank him for too. The last thing he said was, that I could have improved more and he wants me to focus on that for the next season to give every single day, my best effort and not waste my talent because he knows, if I give everything I have I can make it. He also talks sometimes that he sees himself in me and he does not want me to end like him, a wasted talent and I love it that he kicks my ass every practice just to get me there and that is what I will focus more than anytime before this season, to give everything I have and to push myself to the next level and my goal for next year, is to get the “most improved player” award, because that is the award you can measure how good your season was and than you can be proud of yourself look in the mirror and say you made it to the goal this season, let’s get at the next on. I really learned a lot lot lot lot this season and I am still in the process of learning and it is good that I went trough that season on that team because you either ignore everything the coaches say and be like before or you learn and grow up, become mature and move on to the next level and that was what I did and I think I will learn a lot of new stuff next season again and that is what really makes me better and makes you get to the next level and use the stuff you learned before.

Andy Moog and Me

Life is about hockey, the rest, just details.

Hope to see you soon

Raphi

P.S.: The next time I will put some pictures up with the award, but they had to fix them because they were broken when they got them so that is why I do not have them now.

3 busy weeks full of great experience

Ungar Raphael — Sat, 16 Apr 2011 18:14:08 +0000

Hey guys!

I hope you enjoyed my last article. My easter break just started and I can look back to 3 awesome weeks spending in many different countries, playing a lot of games with great competition and also got to now a lot of different cultures. I was the last time together with a junior nationalteam and played the last time in that team with all my friends I made during all those years. It was straight unbelieveable and I will never forget that experience. We had a lot of fun but not only that I was also proud to play for my country and gave everything I had. I started the first game and played the first period despite making 4 unreal saves the coach had to pull me because we were trailling 3:0 because the players did not have their heads in it as he told me. We lost the game 5:2 to a strong Mannheim Team carrying 9 nationalteam players. Later that day we played a 95 Select Team from Moscow in which I played, showed and proofed to everyone that I play every single game as hard as I can. We tied the game 1:1 and the crowd gave me a standing ovation what speaks for itself. On the 26th our opponent was the Team Netherland which we beat 6:5 and the other goalie got to start in. Unfortunately we had though luck being tied in points with the Team from Russia but only made the 3rd place in our group due to the fact that they had better goals for average. On the last day we played the Team Netherlands again where I played a solid effort winning 6:2. We finished only 5th place because we only did not play well in the first period of the tournament but it was again a grat experience and I took along a lot of things.

The following weekend I went for another gret tournament to Salzburg with the L.A. Stars facing even thougher games. The team´s effort was poor but I played on top of my game again making about 80 saves in the first game, and most of them big saves and losing 5:0 to Pisek. I played outstanding as everyone told and was of course upset with the lose but my individual effort was good. In the next day’s first game we played against EV Zug which carried 2 austrian nationalteam players and lost 8:1. Later that day we played a strong Salzburg team that finished 1st in the Austrian U17 Bundesliga. I was ready for that game facing again about 80 or even more shots. I was batteling for every single puck as hard as I could but could not do enough to prevent the 11:0 lose. I was so tired after that game, I could not even walk properly anymore. I was really angry and upset because I cared about the team. On the last day we played Rosenheim and everybody suddenly started to move their feet but we still lost 4:0. I learned really a lot after that weekend not only on, but also of the ice and that is important. I also made some great improvements in my game.

From 8.04-10.04. I spent the time in Prague with my team again. The teams there were also really good and at the end of the weekend we finally found some positives to build on. We arrived on Friday at midday and did not have any time to get a little bit of rest as we already had a game when we arrived. Everybody was still tired and we faced Banska Bystrica a strong team from Slovakia. I got to start and already knew before the game that it would be disaster. You could see that everybody was still tired because nobody showed any jump or enthusiasm. It later showed on the score board losing 9:2. In the evening we played the hosting team and lost 6:1 in a game nobody really played better then the previous game. I was more ready for this one facing a lot of shots again but came out with a solid effort. The next day we played the future tournament winner Flash Team in which everyone played well. But they just were the better team and won 4:0. On Sunday we played our U15 team having all of the good 96 players and also players from the Prep team. We lost that one 5:4 SO giving up a 3:0 lead earlier. The last game we played a EC Klostersee from Germany and won 4:0. I was back on top of my game and played outstanding. The team also played a lot better and the moral improved for the whole team.

I had really busy weeks not only due to hockey but also in school. I managed to do also well in school after accomplishing one of three 2 in French and the only 2 in German as well as a 1 in English and Biology. I am looking forward to the next tournament the U16 Centrope Cup from the 19th to the 21st of April in St. Pölten playing against great teams from around the world and maybe I see you there.

All the best and hope to see you soon

rapii

Newspaper article

Ungar Raphael — Tue, 22 Mar 2011 10:55:50 +0000

Hey fellows!

here is a little newspaper article about me in the YOU! – magazin:

I hope you enjoyed it and to see you soon
All the best raphii

1st semester

Ungar Raphael — Mon, 17 Jan 2011 17:05:09 +0000

Puuhhh it is a long time ago since I posted the last time something and i wanted to say sorry to all of you.

So now we are almost done with the first half of the school year. The weeks pass by so fast and every Friday I am sitting there and wondering how fast the week went by. I had up to now if I look back an overall good season so far. I played about 15 games and in everyone of them well or very well only in maybe 1 or 2 games not so good. I have improved since the beginning of the year but I can’t really say how much because that can only tell someone from outside. Practices are great because I also get to practice with the Prep Team from our academy a few times and I helped the team a lot also as a leader and being a role model on the ice and off the ice. It is hard to give everyday in every practice and on every drill 100% but as the regular season is coming to an end I really try to focus on that and also my goalie coach told me it is important to give, no matter what you do, always a 100% and that is where the pro distinguishes from the amateur and I really want to work on that. You also have to try hard in school which I do because that can be the deciding factor for making it to a college or university or not. But my grades are pretty good and they have never been a problem so far. I am lucky and happy that I have not been injuried I was only sick for 10 days. I also have positives with the Austrian U16 National Team, when we won the ” 4 Nations Cup” in Budapest where I played a great game against Team France (2:1 W) and got awarded as best player of the game. We have also been to Prague like last year from 27.12-30.12 where we as a team did not play so well but I had a solid effort. I am looking forward to the last few games of this season and some great tournaments.

Hope to see you soon
yours raphii

U-17 Varsity Stars Battle Linz to a 3-3 Tie

Ungar Raphael — Wed, 06 Oct 2010 21:05:32 +0000

On Sunday afternoon, the L.A. Stars Varsity team bounced back from an tough league opener, by skating to a 3-3 draw at home against Linz Black Wings, in U-17 Bundesliga action. The Varsity Stars started slowly and looked apprehensive in the first period. The visiting Black Wings caplitalized on a defensive zone breakdown by the Stars seven minutes in to take the early lead. Raphael Ungar was counted upon numerous times in the first ten minutes in the L.A. Stars goal and kept his team in the game early. With the Black Wings down two men in the penalty box, the Stars evened the score at the 11:57 mark of the first period as Mathias Kastner converted on a goal mouth play created by Cedric Irhuesogie. The teams were not even for long, as the Linz club came right back from the next face-off and scored a shorthanded marker to re-gain the lead 2-1.
The second period saw the Stars back on their heels, as they found themselves in some penalty trouble. However, they managed to come out of the period without giving up any goals against, due to strong penalty killing efforts and some outstanding saves from goaltender Ungar, who made 16 saves in the period. After the second, the score still remained 2-1 for the visiting Black Wings.
In the third, the Varsity Stars seemed to find their skating legs, and had a couple of really good scoring chances early in the period to even the score, but we unable to convert. Finally, their increased effort paid off as Luka Znidarsic found a wide open Simon Joselowitch in front of the Linz net, and Joselowitch made no mistake, knotting the game at two. The young Stars club seemed to rally after the goal, and managed to strike again a minute and a half later, as Marvin Alena (from Tomanek, Matzka) scored on a nice wrist shot from the top of the right circle to give the Stars a 3-2 lead.
The team from Linz continued to work hard and had the Stars running around in their own zone for a couple of shifts in a row, before a Black Wings defender snuck in off the left side and fired a high slapshot passed a screened Ungar to even the score 3-3. The Stars then were forced to kill off a penalty in the last two minutes of the game, and managed to fend off the charging Linz attack in the final seconds. Strong penalty killing and more spectacular saves from Raphael Ungar allowed the Varsity Stars to come away with the 3-3 tie.
As mentioned, Raphael Ungar was outstanding in the net for the L.A. Varsity Stars, as he turned away 41 of the 44 shots directed at him by the Linz team and gave his team a chance to win. Varsity Coach Ben Blakeley acknowledged the improvement from the first game, however was quick to point out there is still a lot to work on, “I thought that we looked really nervous in the first half of the game and some of our guys were thinking too much instead of just moving their feet and making the simple play. There are still a lot of areas where we need to get better all over the ice, but it is going to take some time. Once we started working harder midway through the game, I thought we seemed to gain confidence as a group, which is important for us at this early point in the season.”

Below the link to the news.
Hope to see you soon
yours raphii

http://ohseurope.com/index.php/news/26-u-17-varsity-game-reports/194-u-17-varsity-stars-battle-linz-to-a-3-3-tie

First review

Ungar Raphael — Mon, 27 Sep 2010 07:43:08 +0000

Now I look back to 1 week Okanagan Hockey Academy into the 2^nd year. 1^st week in St. Pölten the practice was good and everybody got to know each other well. Overall it was a good 1^st week and everybody tried his best on the ice and off the ice because teams where to be decided after the week. For the goalies it was really though especially for me because there were 3 94s. So we practiced and played a couple of games against Mannheimer Adler and it was pretty much of a head-to-head competition between the goalies because everybody was pretty much at the same level. The decision day: I got up in the morning and was pretty nervous because I really wanted to make the A team because they are going to go to a tournament in Boston where they play against 17 and 18 year olds and what would have been an great experience for me and I would have to get to see my guest family and all the friends I made when I was in Boston with the National Team. So morning practice was great I almost didn’t get scored on and in the evening everyone was in the locker room and Ben and Jason called everyone one-by-one into their office and they talked to everyone personally. I was so nervous and then they called me in. I hoped to be playin for the A Team when they called me up because I wanted to go to Boston so bad. So I was sitting in there sweating and didn’t know what to say. Jason said:” Me and Ben thought a lot about it and you are not playing for the A Team and it is actually only for your advantage because you will get a lot of shots in the games and Ben needs someone that’s leading and is a good guy and that can lead in the gym and on the ice and work hard. You also have to carry a lot of weight and Cseh said he counts you to one of the better goalies but we also want to keep the 94s together. You are also practicing with the A Team so you get even more ice time and in the A Team 9 out of 10 games you wouldn’t get any shots at all.” I still was stunished and really didn’t know what to say because of course I hoped to make the A Team but I also thought about that before as well and sweat was running even more all over me and in my brain a thousand things were floating around and I just said ok and even that was hard to get out and so I left. Back at the dorm everyone was like :” What you didn’t make the A Team?, no you are kidding me that’s a joke, No way, You’re the best goalie here,..” So I went to bed with still floating thoughts but the more I thought about it to be in the B Team the more it seemed to me to be better.

See you hopefully soon

Yours raphii

Dream Academia Fotoshooting

Ungar Raphael — Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:10:10 +0000

Fotoshooting mit Max Schwinghammer aus dem Harrington College in Kanada

Danke für die tollen Bilder an Oleksandr Hnatenko

Österreichischer U15 Meister

Ungar Raphael — Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:41:24 +0000